Comments on: Bad to the bone http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone/ Dada, bring my beer in the living room Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:56:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: kitchenMage http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone/#comment-26587 kitchenMage Wed, 13 Feb 2008 02:12:53 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone-2/#comment-26587 <p><i>shaking fistful of greens</i> You can have my raw spinach salad when you pry it out of my cold, dead hands. It will be sprinkled with real piggy bacon, too. </p> <p>I am reminded, however, that I just discovered ~2 lbs of leaf lard in the freezer - local, organic pig fat. Yum.</p> shaking fistful of greens You can have my raw spinach salad when you pry it out of my cold, dead hands. It will be sprinkled with real piggy bacon, too.

I am reminded, however, that I just discovered ~2 lbs of leaf lard in the freezer - local, organic pig fat. Yum.

]]> By: Belle http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone/#comment-26524 Belle Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:33:12 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone-2/#comment-26524 <p>Thank you for the post. I agree that you can overwhelm some vegetables with fat and calories. But a little fat and a little salt and lots of herbs and seasonings make food great. </p> <p>Jason, I'm with you on the portion sizes. I've gotten to the point that I split almost all meals in restaurants. They are just to big. </p> <p>Kathleen- Kale is much better with a touch of salt. I have found that it is better to put salt on at the table and don't stir it into the food. That way the salty flavor hits your tongue first and you don't need as much of it.</p> Thank you for the post. I agree that you can overwhelm some vegetables with fat and calories. But a little fat and a little salt and lots of herbs and seasonings make food great.

Jason, I’m with you on the portion sizes. I’ve gotten to the point that I split almost all meals in restaurants. They are just to big.

Kathleen- Kale is much better with a touch of salt. I have found that it is better to put salt on at the table and don’t stir it into the food. That way the salty flavor hits your tongue first and you don’t need as much of it.

]]> By: Kathleen http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone/#comment-26498 Kathleen Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:50:21 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone-2/#comment-26498 <p>I made the kale last night. It was OK. It's kind of like the spinach salad Mom used to make. I didn't use any salt whatsoever; maybe it would have been better with the salt.</p> I made the kale last night. It was OK. It’s kind of like the spinach salad Mom used to make. I didn’t use any salt whatsoever; maybe it would have been better with the salt.

]]> By: Dominic http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone/#comment-26453 Dominic Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:04:16 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone-2/#comment-26453 <p>izzy's mama -- faced with the same situation, my doctor prescribed -- get this -- exercise! Just three 30-minute cardio sessions a week and within two months, my HDL/LDL ratio was back to what is considered "good." Best of luck to you!</p> <p>Dominic <b><a href="http://www.thezenkitchen.com" rel="nofollow">the zen kitchen</a></b></p> izzy’s mama — faced with the same situation, my doctor prescribed — get this — exercise! Just three 30-minute cardio sessions a week and within two months, my HDL/LDL ratio was back to what is considered “good.” Best of luck to you!

Dominic the zen kitchen

]]> By: Stevo http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone/#comment-26452 Stevo Sun, 03 Feb 2008 14:46:46 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone-2/#comment-26452 <p>Great article and discussion. Would my health be better if binged on bacon once per month instead of doses several times a week? Does occasional gluttony balance out a life with boring table fare?</p> Great article and discussion. Would my health be better if binged on bacon once per month instead of doses several times a week? Does occasional gluttony balance out a life with boring table fare?

]]> By: half&half http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone/#comment-26447 half&half Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:29:09 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone-2/#comment-26447 <p>You might want to check out 'Real Food: What to Eat and Why' by Nina Planck if you haven't already.</p> You might want to check out ‘Real Food: What to Eat and Why’ by Nina Planck if you haven’t already.

]]> By: mamster http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone/#comment-26437 mamster Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:00:05 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone-2/#comment-26437 <p>izzy's mama, I'm not a doctor and I don't know what to tell you. I am in my 30s and in perfect health, and it is easy for me to be cavalier about my diet. I have no idea what I would--will--do in your situation. My guess, and this is NOT advice, is that the first thing I would try is a low-carb diet.</p> izzy’s mama, I’m not a doctor and I don’t know what to tell you. I am in my 30s and in perfect health, and it is easy for me to be cavalier about my diet. I have no idea what I would—will—do in your situation. My guess, and this is NOT advice, is that the first thing I would try is a low-carb diet.

]]> By: izzy's mama http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone/#comment-26434 izzy's mama Sat, 02 Feb 2008 21:31:52 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone-2/#comment-26434 <p>I whole-heartedly believe in Nina Planck's Real Food paradigm. Bring on the butter, bacon et al. This was all well and good until I went to visit the cardiologist. My "bad" cholesterol is slightly elevated and I come from a family with a strong history of heart disease. Now I am faced with a quandry since the doctor feels I should attempt to "lower the numbers". Yet from what I have read, this doesn't necessarily make sense. Do I seek another opinion? Granted she didn't tell me to eliminate everything but she was certainly anti-lard. It is easy to blissfully eat whatever you want if there are no ill effects but I surely don't want to compromise my health. Now I am not sure what to believe but I continue to have my bacon and eat it too..</p> I whole-heartedly believe in Nina Planck’s Real Food paradigm. Bring on the butter, bacon et al. This was all well and good until I went to visit the cardiologist. My “bad” cholesterol is slightly elevated and I come from a family with a strong history of heart disease. Now I am faced with a quandry since the doctor feels I should attempt to “lower the numbers”. Yet from what I have read, this doesn’t necessarily make sense. Do I seek another opinion? Granted she didn’t tell me to eliminate everything but she was certainly anti-lard. It is easy to blissfully eat whatever you want if there are no ill effects but I surely don’t want to compromise my health. Now I am not sure what to believe but I continue to have my bacon and eat it too..

]]> By: mamster http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone/#comment-26415 mamster Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:58:05 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone-2/#comment-26415 <p>JJ, sorry if I implied that Walter Willett had absolved saturated fats. I personally think the case against saturated fats is weak and they will eventually be exonerated, but I don't mean to put those words in anyone else's mouth.</p> <p>Willett does not, as most nutritionists do, advise restricting dietary fat intake to 30 percent of calories.</p> JJ, sorry if I implied that Walter Willett had absolved saturated fats. I personally think the case against saturated fats is weak and they will eventually be exonerated, but I don’t mean to put those words in anyone else’s mouth.

Willett does not, as most nutritionists do, advise restricting dietary fat intake to 30 percent of calories.

]]> By: JJ http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone/#comment-26414 JJ Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:51:03 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2008/01/30/bad-to-the-bone-2/#comment-26414 <p>Mamster, Dr. Walter Willett believes there are good fats and bad fats, and he classes saturated fats as bad fats. </p> <p>Here's what he says in an interview with Discover magazine: (link: http://discovermagazine.com/2003/mar/breakdialogue)</p> <p>"...healthy fats, such as liquid vegetable oils, that actually reduce the risk of heart disease. The unhealthy fats are the animal fats, mainly from red meat and butter, which are high in saturated fats; even worse are the trans-fats from partially hydrogenated vegetable oils found in some margarines and deep-fried fast foods."</p> <p>Willett even developed a Healthy Eating Pyramid which is in his book "Eat, Drink & be Healthy" and also in his latest book "Eat, Drink, & Weigh Less" where he advises that people eat red meat and butter sparingly. (http://www.sciam.com/media/inline/0007C5B6-7152-1DF6-9733809EC588EEDF<em>3</em>lg.gif).</p> <p>So Dr. Willett does recommend cutting down on animal fats and trans fats, but not fats from plant oils and fish.</p> Mamster, Dr. Walter Willett believes there are good fats and bad fats, and he classes saturated fats as bad fats.

Here’s what he says in an interview with Discover magazine: (link: http://discovermagazine.com/2003/mar/breakdialogue)

“…healthy fats, such as liquid vegetable oils, that actually reduce the risk of heart disease. The unhealthy fats are the animal fats, mainly from red meat and butter, which are high in saturated fats; even worse are the trans-fats from partially hydrogenated vegetable oils found in some margarines and deep-fried fast foods.”

Willett even developed a Healthy Eating Pyramid which is in his book “Eat, Drink & be Healthy” and also in his latest book “Eat, Drink, & Weigh Less” where he advises that people eat red meat and butter sparingly. (http://www.sciam.com/media/inline/0007C5B6-7152-1DF6-9733809EC588EEDF3lg.gif).

So Dr. Willett does recommend cutting down on animal fats and trans fats, but not fats from plant oils and fish.

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