Comments on: Fat of the land http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/ Dada, bring my beer in the living room Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:03:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Mr. Beer Belly http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-5392 Mr. Beer Belly Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:33:16 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-5392 <p>I've seen the light!</p> I’ve seen the light!

]]> By: mamster http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-5389 mamster Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:09:10 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-5389 <p>It certainly is the demon of the moment.</p> It certainly is the demon of the moment.

]]> By: Mr. Beer Belly http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-5388 Mr. Beer Belly Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:06:27 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-5388 <p>HFCS should be avoided at all costs.</p> HFCS should be avoided at all costs.

]]> By: Vince http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-2416 Vince Thu, 02 Nov 2006 07:03:30 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-2416 <p>Complete disclosure, I had to Google 'Hawthorne Effect'. ;-) I know the principle, I just didn't know that was the name of it.</p> <p>I think I can rely on my deeply ingrained habits and natural laziness to counteract it...</p> Complete disclosure, I had to Google ‘Hawthorne Effect’. ;-) I know the principle, I just didn’t know that was the name of it.

I think I can rely on my deeply ingrained habits and natural laziness to counteract it…

]]> By: mamster http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-2410 mamster Wed, 01 Nov 2006 22:59:49 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-2410 <p>Vince, that's a great idea, although aren't you worried about the Hawthorne Effect?</p> Vince, that’s a great idea, although aren’t you worried about the Hawthorne Effect?

]]> By: Vince http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-2407 Vince Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:53:09 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-2407 <p>Like neil d, I ran a little experiment a couple years ago where I avoided most carbs and those I did eat where whole grains, avoided refined sugar and high fructose corn syrup and didn't drink any alcohol other than red wine, and that in limited quantities. I dropped over 20 pounds in a month, but fell off the wagon soon after.</p> <p>Mamster, if you want to understand why I'm fat and you're not, we should do a parallel journal of eating and activity for a week, I would guess it would make the issue clear and that the differences wouldn't be focused in any single cause.</p> Like neil d, I ran a little experiment a couple years ago where I avoided most carbs and those I did eat where whole grains, avoided refined sugar and high fructose corn syrup and didn’t drink any alcohol other than red wine, and that in limited quantities. I dropped over 20 pounds in a month, but fell off the wagon soon after.

Mamster, if you want to understand why I’m fat and you’re not, we should do a parallel journal of eating and activity for a week, I would guess it would make the issue clear and that the differences wouldn’t be focused in any single cause.

]]> By: mamster http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-2394 mamster Wed, 01 Nov 2006 04:22:02 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-2394 <p>Vince, I totally agree with you, but I didn't leave out portion control, I lumped it in under diets. I think you're right that I tend to eat relatively small portions, but I have absolutely no good explanation for why that should be. I expect it's something like people who have a defective alcohol metabolism pathway and therefore feel sick whenever they drink alcohol and therefore don't become alcoholics: when I overeat, I feel really sick. I assume this has been studied, but I know almost nothing about satiety research.</p> <p>neil d, I will email your whole grains idea to my future self, for when my sense of satiety wears off.</p> Vince, I totally agree with you, but I didn’t leave out portion control, I lumped it in under diets. I think you’re right that I tend to eat relatively small portions, but I have absolutely no good explanation for why that should be. I expect it’s something like people who have a defective alcohol metabolism pathway and therefore feel sick whenever they drink alcohol and therefore don’t become alcoholics: when I overeat, I feel really sick. I assume this has been studied, but I know almost nothing about satiety research.

neil d, I will email your whole grains idea to my future self, for when my sense of satiety wears off.

]]> By: neil d http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-2393 neil d Wed, 01 Nov 2006 03:16:13 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-2393 <p>I wholeheartedly agree that exercise = good and diets = useless, with one exception: When I switched from refined to whole-wheat products, with no other change in my diet, I lost 20 pounds. And I wasn't even especially trying to lose weight, just eat healthier. </p> <p>This would tend to mesh with ctate's link about the troubles caused by a high-glycemic-index (among other things) diet. And with Vince's about portion control, for that matter, since refined carbs tend to make you want to eat more, whereas whole grains sit in your stomach like lead shot.</p> I wholeheartedly agree that exercise = good and diets = useless, with one exception: When I switched from refined to whole-wheat products, with no other change in my diet, I lost 20 pounds. And I wasn’t even especially trying to lose weight, just eat healthier.

This would tend to mesh with ctate’s link about the troubles caused by a high-glycemic-index (among other things) diet. And with Vince’s about portion control, for that matter, since refined carbs tend to make you want to eat more, whereas whole grains sit in your stomach like lead shot.

]]> By: Vince http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-2390 Vince Wed, 01 Nov 2006 00:39:12 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-2390 <p>I consider myself something of an expert on obesity.... ;-)</p> <p>The one BIG issue you left out is portion control. Americans eat way too much, including this particular American. Starting with being told to clean your plate as a kid up through restaurant providing 'value' through huge portions, we're constantly encouraged to push our stomachs to the limit. My impression is that you and Laurie eat reasonable portions most of the time.</p> I consider myself something of an expert on obesity…. ;-)

The one BIG issue you left out is portion control. Americans eat way too much, including this particular American. Starting with being told to clean your plate as a kid up through restaurant providing ‘value’ through huge portions, we’re constantly encouraged to push our stomachs to the limit. My impression is that you and Laurie eat reasonable portions most of the time.

]]> By: jarlsberger http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-2382 jarlsberger Tue, 31 Oct 2006 16:11:28 +0000 http://www.rootsandgrubs.com/2006/10/30/fat-of-the-land/#comment-2382 <p>You may find that your ability to eat anything you want and not put on a lot of weight in the process declines precipitously as you get older...at least that's been my experience.</p> You may find that your ability to eat anything you want and not put on a lot of weight in the process declines precipitously as you get older…at least that’s been my experience.

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